Rust for Linux revisited August 30, 2024 on Drew DeVault's blog

Ugh. Drew’s blogging about Rust again.

– You

I promise to be nice.

Two years ago, seeing the Rust-for-Linux project starting to get the ball rolling, I wrote “Does Rust belong in the Linux kernel?”, penning a conclusion consistent with Betteridge’s law of headlines. Two years on we have a lot of experience to draw on to see how Rust-for-Linux is actually playing out, and I’d like to renew my thoughts with some hindsight – and more compassion. If you’re one of the Rust-for-Linux participants burned out or burning out on this project, I want to help. Burnout sucks – I’ve been there.

The people working on Rust-for-Linux are incredibly smart, talented, and passionate developers who have their eyes set on a goal and are tirelessly working towards it – and, as time has shown, with a great deal of patience. Though I’ve developed a mostly-well-earned reputation for being a fierce critic of Rust, I do believe it has its place and I have a lot of respect for the work these folks are doing. These developers are ambitious and motivated to make an impact, and Linux is undoubtedly the highest-impact software in the world, and in theory Linux is enthusiastically ready to accept motivated innovators into its fold to facilitate that impact.

At least in theory. In practice, the Linux community is the wild wild west, and sweeping changes are infamously difficult to achieve consensus on, and this is by far the broadest sweeping change ever proposed for the project. Every subsystem is a private fiefdom, subject to the whims of each one of Linux’s 1,700+ maintainers, almost all of whom have a dog in this race. It’s herding cats: introducing Rust effectively is one part coding work and ninety-nine parts political work – and it’s a lot of coding work. Every subsystem has its own unique culture and its own strongly held beliefs and values.

The consequences of these factors is that Rust-for-Linux has become a burnout machine. My heart goes out to the developers who have been burned in this project. It’s not fair. Free software is about putting in the work, it’s a classical do-ocracy… until it isn’t, and people get hurt. In spite of my critiques of the project, I recognize the talent and humanity of everyone involved, and wouldn’t have wished these outcomes on them. I also have sympathy for many of the established Linux developers who didn’t exactly want this on their plate… but that’s neither here nor there for the purpose of this post, and any of those developers and their fiefdoms who went out of their way to make life difficult for the Rust developers above and beyond what was needed to ensure technical excellence are accountable for these shitty outcomes.1

So where do we go now?

Well, let me begin by re-iterating something from my last article on the subject: “I wish [Rust-for-Linux] the best of luck and hope to see them succeed”. Their path is theirs to choose, and though I might advise a moment to rest before diving headfirst into this political maelstrom once again, I support you in your endeavours if this is what you choose to do. Not my business. That said, allow me to humbly propose a different path for your consideration.

Here’s the pitch: a motivated group of talented Rust OS developers could build a Linux-compatible kernel, from scratch, very quickly, with no need to engage in LKML politics. You would be astonished by how quickly you can make meaningful gains in this kind of environment; I think if the amount of effort being put into Rust-for-Linux were applied to a new Linux-compatible OS we could have something production ready for some use-cases within a few years.

Novel OS design is hard: projects like Redox are working on this, but it will take along time to bear fruit and research operating systems often have to go back to the drawing board and make major revisions over and over again before something useful and robust emerges. This is important work – and near to my heart – but it’s not for everyone. However, making an OS which is based on a proven design like Linux is much easier and can be done very quickly. I worked on my own novel OS design for a couple of years and it’s still stuck in design hell and badly in need of being rethought; on the other hand I wrote a passable Unix clone alone in less than 30 days.

Rust is a great fit for a large monolithic kernel design like Linux. Imagine having the opportunity to implement something like the dcache from scratch in Rust, without engaging with the politics – that’s something a small group of people, perhaps as few as one, could make substantial inroads on in a short period of time taking full advantage of what Rust has on offer. Working towards compatibility with an existing design can leverage a much larger talent pool than the very difficult problem of novel OS design, a lot of people can manage with a copy of the ISA manual and a missive to implement a single syscall in a Linux-compatible fashion over the weekend. A small and motivated group of contributors could take on the work of, say, building out io_uring compatibility and start finding wins fast – it’s a lot easier than designing io_uring from scratch. I might even jump in and build out a driver or two for fun myself, that sounds like a good opportunity for me to learn Rust properly with a fun project with a well-defined scope.

Attracting labor shouldn’t be too difficult with this project in mind, either. If there was the Rust OS project, with a well-defined scope and design (i.e. aiming for Linux ABI compatibility), I’m sure there’s a lot of people who’d jump in to stake a claim on some piece of the puzzle and put it together, and the folks working on Rust-for-Linux have the benefit of a great deal of experience with the Linux kernel to apply to oversight on the broader design approach. Having a clear, well-proven goal in mind can also help to attract the same people who want to make an impact in a way that a speculative research project might not. Freeing yourselves of the LKML political battles would probably be a big win for the ambitions of bringing Rust into kernel space. Such an effort would also be a great way to mentor a new generation of kernel hackers who are comfortable with Rust in kernel space and ready to deploy their skillset to the research projects that will build a next-generation OS like Redox. The labor pool of serious OS developers badly needs a project like this to make that happen.

So my suggestion for the Rust-for-Linux project is: you’re burned out and that’s awful, I feel for you. It might be fun and rewarding to spend your recovery busting out a small prototype Unix kernel and start fleshing out bits and pieces of the Linux ABI with your friends. I can tell you from my own experience doing something very much like this that it was a very rewarding burnout recovery project for me. And who knows where it could go?

Once again wishing you the best and hoping for your success, wherever the path ahead leads.

What about drivers?

To pre-empt a response I expect to this article: there’s the annoying question of driver support, of course. This was an annoying line of argumentation back when Linux had poor driver support as well, and it will be a nuisance for a hypothetical Linux-compatible Rust kernel as well. Well, the same frustrated arguments I trotted out then are still ready at hand: you choose your use-cases carefully. General-purpose comes later. Building an OS which supports virtual machines, or a datacenter deployment, or a specific mobile device whose vendor is volunteering labor for drivers, and so on, will come first. You choose the hardware that supports the software, not the other way around, or build the drivers you need.

That said, a decent spread of drivers should be pretty easy to implement with the talent base you have at your disposal, so I wouldn’t worry about it.


  1. Yes, I saw that video, and yes, I expect much better from you in the future, Ted. That was some hostile, toxic bullshit. ↩︎

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